Maryknoll collected eight first-place votes to remain No. 1 in the Star-Advertiser Boys Basketball Top 10 on Monday.
The Spartans (19-2, 5-1 Interscholastic League of Honolulu) arrived at the top spot a week ago for the first time this season. Off the heels of a 55-49 win over then-No. 1 Punahou on Dec. 12, Maryknoll fought off Mid-Pacific 37-18 last week.
The first five teams in the rankings remained in place: Maryknoll, ‘Iolani, Damien and Farrington. Kailua moved up a notch to No. 6 and Moanalua returned to the Top 10 at No. 7, sharing the spot with Lahainaluna.
Saint Louis dropped from No. 6 to No. 10. The Crusaders lost to Mid-Pacific, Punahou and St. Francis last week. They accumulated two more points from the voting panel of coaches and media than Waiakea.
In all, 15 teams received votes, the lowest total since Dec. 17.
In addition, Kamehameha, Mililani, Mid-Pacific and Leilehua received votes.
Honolulu Star-Advertiser Top 10
| FOOTBALL | ||
|---|---|---|
| Updated: 10/23 | ||
| RANK | SCHOOL | VOTES |
| 1. | Kahuku (10) | 100 |
| 2. | Miililani | 86 |
| 3. | Campbell | 81 |
| 4. | Punahou | 73 |
| 5. | Saint Louis | 53 |
| 6. | Kapolei | 50 |
| 7. | Konawaena | 40 |
| 8. | Farrington | 23 |
| 9. | Lahainaluna | 18 |
| 10. | Kamehameha | 8 |
Where’s Recruited not Rooted?
The guy that said that St Louis Basketball was going to be great this year?
Yes, they were undefeated early on but that’s what happens when you play other Island teams that weren’t that good to begin with. They lost 5 in a row and haven’t even played the meat of the ILH schedule, Marynoll, Punahou, Iolani, Kam, Damien.
I sure would like to here his excuse?
Recruited not rooted December 11, 2018 11:42 am
FYI don’t sleep on Saint Louis people. @??? The “Truth” is you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground. If you did, you’d know Saint Louis is loaded this year.
@Recruited not rooted ”I am the TRUTH”😂
STL will end on an 0-11 With 2nd half neat schedule! Thanks to Recruited not rooteds HYPE!
Saint Louis should still be ranked higher than Damien. Look at the schedules.
I watched St Louis play and they are talented and very athletic. Their main problem is that they are very undisciplined. I really don’t see them going very far.
@Loca1boiAnonymous
You’re kidding right?
Damien beat Punahou, Marynoll, Kailua, Kapolei, Kalaheo, Kamehameha!
St Louis beat
KS-Hawaii
Hilo
Honokaa
Hawaii Prep
Le Jardin
& Kauai 😂😂
Not sure I’d agree that St. Louis should be ranked higher than Damien. The Monarchs posted wins against Punahou, Maryknoll, St. Francis, Kamehameha, Kalaheo, Kahuku, Kailua, Lahainaluna…etc. Sure, it was in Preseason, but there’s no denying the fact that they are Legit, and deserve a Top 5 ranking….IMO.
@Loca1boiAnonymous
That’s exactly why D1 schools have nothing to gain playing D2 (who are really D1) schools in pre-season. If they beat you in pre-season, then go onto dominate their regular season foes, they will always have that head-to-head win against you. The pre-season really counts for a lot with the voters.
The problem with the St. Louis Basketball Team is they played too little preseason games and against weak opponents. Hopefully they will peak before the season ends. The fault lies with the A.D for the poor scheduling. What if they had a real A.D. who was capable instead of one being hired because someone told the School President to do so.
What if ?
Paul Honda: Damien and Farrington are designated division II basketball schools this year. It’s been decades since Damien had a legit Division I team They both have talent this year and because of the criteria being used by the leagues, teams are designated to participate in division I and II from their past record. So what if a division II team beats a division I team in pre-season? When it comes to how the teams are ranked in the present Honolulu Star Advertiser Top 10, it should be ranked by what division the schools are designated to participate for the season since they are 2 divisions. This will eliminate all the questions as to how a division II team beat so many division I teams and so on. It should be part of your job to create a ranking for division I and division II teams. If you have the time to rank the football teams by the Japanese Sumo rankings (lol) I’m sure there shouldn’t be any difficulty to rank the basketball teams by divisions would it? I’m sure Bill Kwon or Mont Ito would have used some common sense and created separate rankings for basketball from their past sports columns. Com-on Paul, give it a try and wait for the response from the readers.
Again… the criteria for classification varies to an extreme from league to league, or from the OIA to other leagues. When that criteria becomes universal — not necessarily perfectly defined — it will make sense to have two polls. Do you really think a school with 3,000 students should be happy about being No. 1 in Division II? Especially when it wasn’t their choice?
There’s nothing to stop the OIA from expanding its D-I field from 12 teams to 14. Farrington and Kaiser in D-II is ridiculous. That would reduce OIA D-II to seven teams, which makes much more sense. Kaimuki, Castle, Anuenue, Waianae, Nanakuli, Waipahu, Waialua. Frankly, Waipahu and Waianae have the enrollment to be in D-I, I believe.
Until there is a change that protects smaller schools and stops rewarding large schools for underachieving — especially in football — one poll is a constant that makes sense.
Besides, it’s fun to have questions and debates about where Damien and Farrington (and St. Francis in the previous two seasons) should be in the rankings. Fun is good.
Keep in mind when they beat Punahou, Puns didn’t have their best player. When Punahou had their full team, they throttled Damien. St. Francis also beat Damien, avenging an earlier preseason loss. and Kameron wasn’t even a 100%. Look at St. Francis now in ILH, they are barely touching .500. Damien has the luxury of looking good at preseason when D1 teams don’t even care about it as much or with incomplete rosters. But when it counts, you’ll see the results of this years St Francis. A D2 team getting smacked around in D1.
Yes Paul, doing ridiculous things is indeed fun sometimes for some people. Ranking Div II and Div
teams together in the same poll, teams that do not compete in the same tourney, simply doesn’t happen elsewhere for a legitimate reason.
Paul Honda: Evidently, one of your main criteria for classification is enrollment since you’ve mentioned it several times. It would be great if that was the reason but questions always arises especially in football. If enrollment is used as one of the criteria, where is the line drawn for designating schools to be in division I or II? Here’s the OIA schools by enrollment. 1. Campbell 2. Mililani 3. Waipahu 4. Farrington 5. Kapolei 6. Moanalua 7. Waianae 8. Leilehua 9. Pearl City 10. McKinley 11. Kahuku 12. Roosevelt 13. Kalani 14. Radford 15. Castle 16. Kaiser 17. Nanakuli 18. Aiea 19. Kalaheo 20. Kaimuki 21. Kailua 22. Waialua 23.Anuenue . If kaiser has an enrollment of 1,131 and ranked 16, why would it be ridiculous for them to be in D-II? Schools has no choice of being in div I or II because of their past record but may ask to go up. Until the leagues come up with a better solution, they are abiding with what has been voted for by the members of the league. So in the mean time as I’ve mentioned, continue to follow the rules and since there are designated division I and II, just make the best of it because you’ll be waiting for a universal criteria that will never take place. Isn’t generating and increasing the sale of your newspaper part of your job by making it interesting so people will tend to look forward in purchasing the paper? I would think so. Be innovated and take that risk. Aloha!
If I was Mid Pac I would just go down to D2. Not because they don’t have the talent, but they’d get more limelight. Schedule D1 preseason games, beat some and then get write-ups on how you pulled amazing upsets of D1 teams. Then once regular season starts, cruise to a winning season and challenge for a state title. Then, I’d do it again so people could call them back to back state champs. Heck, even get some people to give you first place votes over the best D1 team and challenge for Gatorade poy award. No joke they should just as an experiment.
@Loca1boiAnonymous
St Louis has loss 6 straight games after losing to Iolani tonight and you’re still in hiding.
SMH?
Sorry, last post is meant for “Recruited not Rooted”..
Let’s be straight. If you wanted to increase interest and sharply broaden appeal and thus the reader pool, introducing a DII reanking board would absolutely do this by giving all those DII schools, parents, and communities a chance to be ranked for the very first time. It would surely draw more genuine interest than the ridiculousness of the current “lazy” system.
If you could add enrollment numbers to each school that would be nice.
Kaiser can stay in D-II, but the stellar job that Branden Kawazoe and his staff did in recent seasons, plus what Kenneth Powell and staff are doing now, I’m 99-percent sure the Cougars are NOT interested in staying in D-II. In that sense it would not make sense.
Doing a D-II poll when teams across the state have different criteria isn’t risk. It’s inconsistent. Farrington is at No. 5 right now in the Star-Advertiser Top 10. That says more to me as a fan than splitting up votes and seeing a 3,000-student school at No. 1 or No. 2 in a D-II only poll.
Keep the conversation going.
You can’t compare regular season OIA to ILH. The OIA while designated in D2 also play D1 teams. Once the season starts, the ILH only plays D2 teams. Hence, ranking Farrington in the top 10 make sense because they beat D1 teams. Damien may be pretty good this year but the level of play in season is not a competitive. Have a blessed day! Just my thoughts…