Hawaii Prep World editor Billy Hull and KHON2 Sports Director Rob DeMello break down the top games of the week and get into defending the format of the state tournament.
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Hawaii Prep World editor Billy Hull and KHON2 Sports Director Rob DeMello break down the top games of the week and get into defending the format of the state tournament.
Rob’s comment about he doesn’t get why people don’t get that if punahou loses to StL in the ILH championship that punahou (I suppose this scenario would apply to any ILH team who’s ranked in the top 4) had their chance to punch their ticket in to the state tournament.
This doesn’t seem to be a fair statement.
2 losing teams in the OIA tournament (regardless of state rankings) still gets “another” shot at the state title. I believe last year it was Campbell and Kahuku who lost in the OIA tournament and still got to go on to the state tournament. Sounds like double standards.
With this being said, shouldn’t the 2nd place team in the ILH be afforded this same opportunity?
What the people want to see in the state tournament is the state’s top 4 teams playing regardless of being in the OIA or ILH (and not #1 vs #2 in the first round either).
Otherwise to be fair, just go back to the prep bowl format where the champs of the OIA and ILH battle for the state championship. At least this would be “fair” to ALL teams.
Not hating on Farrington, but should they (or any other lower ranked team with a losing record) have a chance to be in the state tournament? One win in the OIA tournament could put them there (assuming they get in to the OIA tournament).
C’mon Man……
just my thoughts on this rainy and gloomy day
How is it FAIR to begin with?
The ILH can recruit from the Whole state and the OIA cannot!
C’Mon STL fans let me hear it?
“St Louis Doesn’t Recruit” kids just want to play there.
Rob,
Since Billy won’t; How bout doing a story on ILH recruiting and OIA transfers & the positive/Negative affects it has on Hawaii HS Sports?
@???
Let’s be real.
OIA recruits, its just called DE’s.
Players want to be part of a winning program so these schools attract a lot of players (to a certain extent).
Do you think Mililani would have all these transfers if they were last in the OIA for the past 5 years?
C’mon man it goes both ways….
@??? – let’s start with what are your top 4 negatives due to recruitment/transfers? And were these issue still in the 70/80/90’s?
Shuddaup about recruiting!!!
It’s the unfortunate circumstance of today’s reality in high school athletics. Parents and athletes alike are looking to get noticed or catch the eye of a potential college scholarship. Kids will gravitate to where they think their best shot is. If you can crack the starting lineup at St. Louis or Punahaou your chances go up. If not you transfer to another school that gives you that opportunity. Kids playing on a team last year are playing on different teams this year via the transfer/ D.E./G.E route. Hawaii high school football especially has been hit hard by this fact. No doubt the ILH has an edge because they have no geographical boundary limits. That’s not changing anytime soon. Unfortunately as far as the playoffs are concerned, the best regardless of league should be represented. And yes, that’s my real name.
Back in the day, we would just take our helmet out of our back pocket, strap em on and play ball.
It didnt matter who was lined up across from us, we were going to student body left and right until they gave up.
One time, one of our guys was about to get tackled and lost control of the ball and it flew forward where, miraculously, my teammate caught it and scored. And that, people, is how the passing game started.
Haha. Too funny.
These boys, “Billy Bob” Hull and Rob DeMello , have it completely right.
It’s simple. The five leagues funnel their teams into the state tournament. The more teams in a league, the more berths you get.
So, win your three-team league before you go to the states.
OIA gets HALF (50 percent) of its six Open teams into states. ILH gets ONE-THIRD (33.3 percent) of its three teams in.
For those of you who think it should be 2 from the ILH and 2 from the OIA into the Open states, then it would be ONE THIRD (33.3 percent) from the OIA and TWO-THIRDS (66.6 percent) from the ILH.
That would be a lot more out of whack, in my opinion.
As for the recruiting talk, my thinking is:
>> Players will go and should go where they want to go.
>> Coaches or assistant coaches or boosters who nudge players to their school (if they actually do it and my guess is that some do and some don’t) cannot be policed. Getting scholarships offered or getting district exemptions are super easy and therefore DE FACTO LEGAL.
>> We used to think Olympics were for amateurs only. Shame on anybody who got paid and then actually play in them. Then you get stupid things like the Dream Team (yeah, I said it, stupid) who beat the crap out of clearly inferior teams and are still GLOATING over it 30 years later like it was the best thing that ever happened in sports. … So, those days of athletic innocence are over. People are building the teams they want in high school. There are pretty much NO RULES, so, this is not your daddy’s high school football. It’s a new age. Complain if you want, but it will get nowhere.
>> The difference between public and private schools getting various players showing up on their teams is that private schools offer tuition incentives. Money, sometimes, talks.
Increase Open tournament to 6 teams.
4 OIA
2 ILH
1 OIA and 1 ILH sit
2 OIA vs 4 OIA- winner play 1 ILH
3 OIA vs 2 ILH – winner play OIA 1
or switch round 2 for those who dont want a potential ILH final, no matter.
OIA= 66.6%
ILH= 66.6%
Huh????
Thank you Nick,
As you insinuated, STL is
Hawaii’s DREAM TEAM (Facts).
Basically, I think fans just want to see the top schools play for the title and NOT have teams there just because they are OIA or ILH.
With the legit 4 top teams, maybe we won’t see repeat blow outs. Any of the top 4 teams can go down by a lower ranked team on any given day (chances are just greater).
My thoughts is there are so many recruiting going on now, because I started to notice all talent is coming from Ewa, and Laie areas. Mililani did some heavy recruiting, Campbell took half of the talent from Kapolei, Kahuku is still rebuilding the team, but still recruiting people from the mainland. Waianae and Farrington are only teams that doesn’t recruit. Punahou got future QB only freshman, but I don’t barely recruit. St. Louis got major talent no matter what, 8th or 9th would get D1 offer, and under Cal Lee they do recruiting. Kamehameha is unfortunately exposing ILH with there talents cannot get it done.
I feel like Leilehua, or maybe Iolani is going to move up to the Open Division. I don’t think Waianae or Farrington is going down to D1.
Prediction: Open Division
St. Louis
Campbell
PUNAHOU
Kahuku
Kapolei
Mililani
Farrington
Waianae
Leilehua
Iolani
Kamehameha
I doubt Iolani will move up
Could someone please let me know who Kahuku recruited…or recruited in the past…I’ve been reading this on this blog for some time now…Please FACTS only…